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		By: L Gaetz		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[L Gaetz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 16:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[quote:
&quot;...with the exception of deviled eggs, we don’t hate much of anything.&quot;

Blatant eggism pure and simple.
#hatersgonnahate]]></description>
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"&#8230;with the exception of deviled eggs, we don’t hate much of anything."</p>
<p>Blatant eggism pure and simple.<br />
#hatersgonnahate</p>
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		By: Joshua Welch		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joshua Welch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 22:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just going with the &quot;Thanks for being Ward. And you piss me off sometimes too.&quot;  (j/k you never make me mad.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just going with the "Thanks for being Ward. And you piss me off sometimes too."  (j/k you never make me mad.)</p>
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		By: Paul Dobbertin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Dobbertin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 14:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you again Ward for being such a reliable and steady beacon. I&#039;ve been following Nerd Vittles for over 10 years.

Speaking of fish (i.e. &quot;Les Poisson&quot; Anyone who knows me well will recall hearing me say this, and I will repeat it again here in reference to this article, &quot;It&#039;s not the Chefs that made French cooking great.&quot; To anyone who hasn&#039;t dined in a French restaurant, their is a consistent exchange between the Chefs and their patrons, and as is often depicted in films, it sometimes gets testy.

Anyone worth their salt in the design process of anything needs to understand and appreciate constructive criticism, and use it in a methodology of constant improvement. Otherwise, dog food remains, well...dog food.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you again Ward for being such a reliable and steady beacon. I&#8217;ve been following Nerd Vittles for over 10 years.</p>
<p>Speaking of fish (i.e. "Les Poisson" Anyone who knows me well will recall hearing me say this, and I will repeat it again here in reference to this article, "It&#8217;s not the Chefs that made French cooking great." To anyone who hasn&#8217;t dined in a French restaurant, their is a consistent exchange between the Chefs and their patrons, and as is often depicted in films, it sometimes gets testy.</p>
<p>Anyone worth their salt in the design process of anything needs to understand and appreciate constructive criticism, and use it in a methodology of constant improvement. Otherwise, dog food remains, well&#8230;dog food.</p>
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		By: Chris Mylonas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Mylonas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2011 22:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[1.15 billion hits - telephony isn&#039;t that exciting :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.15 billion hits &#8211; telephony isn&#8217;t that exciting 🙂</p>
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		By: Harold		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Harold]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2011 06:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Since several people have mentioned thanks here I’d like to chime in too and thank both Nerd Vittles and Digium for their work.

Digium: Thanks for creating a rock solid (at least in my application of it) Telephony program. It really came in handy where I worked. I integrated it with an existing Merlin Legend PBX and used to route international calls to China. Asterisk saved the company a lot of money!

Nerd Vittles: Without you and FreePBX I probably would have given up on Asterisk. While Asterisk has been rock solid in usage, getting it setup and working was extremely difficult. That is partly the nature of a phone system, but it is not helped by the Asterisk cryptic command syntax. Nerd Vittles to the rescue: you have packaged Asterisk, added features to it and promoted it like no other!

The dove with the olive branch at the end of the article was a nice touch too.

Finally, I’d like to comment on the footnotes for this article. I used FoxPro and Clipper in their hay day and still have a client using a FoxPro application I maintain. I vaguely remember something about WAMPUM too. Thanks Ward for your contribution to the dBase era of database software. I hope Asterisk won’t meet the same fate as dBase.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since several people have mentioned thanks here I’d like to chime in too and thank both Nerd Vittles and Digium for their work.</p>
<p>Digium: Thanks for creating a rock solid (at least in my application of it) Telephony program. It really came in handy where I worked. I integrated it with an existing Merlin Legend PBX and used to route international calls to China. Asterisk saved the company a lot of money!</p>
<p>Nerd Vittles: Without you and FreePBX I probably would have given up on Asterisk. While Asterisk has been rock solid in usage, getting it setup and working was extremely difficult. That is partly the nature of a phone system, but it is not helped by the Asterisk cryptic command syntax. Nerd Vittles to the rescue: you have packaged Asterisk, added features to it and promoted it like no other!</p>
<p>The dove with the olive branch at the end of the article was a nice touch too.</p>
<p>Finally, I’d like to comment on the footnotes for this article. I used FoxPro and Clipper in their hay day and still have a client using a FoxPro application I maintain. I vaguely remember something about WAMPUM too. Thanks Ward for your contribution to the dBase era of database software. I hope Asterisk won’t meet the same fate as dBase.</p>
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		By: DWM		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DWM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2011 00:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Keep up the great work Ward and know that your efforts are appreciated by many people.  I read the &#039;dog food&#039; post and comments, and I believe your argument was both respectful and reasonable.  Unfortunately in society there seems to be a tendency to try to shout down dissent, no matter how constructive it is.  Keep doing what you are doing and trust that cooler heads will prevail at Digium and your voice will be heard.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep up the great work Ward and know that your efforts are appreciated by many people.  I read the &#8216;dog food&#8217; post and comments, and I believe your argument was both respectful and reasonable.  Unfortunately in society there seems to be a tendency to try to shout down dissent, no matter how constructive it is.  Keep doing what you are doing and trust that cooler heads will prevail at Digium and your voice will be heard.</p>
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		By: Ronald Gibson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ronald Gibson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 19:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m staying with v1.4 for as long as I can. Right now it works the way I want it to. Every once in a while I try to duplicate what I have.  Text-to speech, that&#039;s one that works. Next is to get FreePBX v2.8 to fix the &quot;lookup local prefixes&quot;. It&#039;s for the home phone and want to keep it for just local dialing. So far this latest download will not let me do that. There might be more things wrong, I&#039;m doing it in little steps.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m staying with v1.4 for as long as I can. Right now it works the way I want it to. Every once in a while I try to duplicate what I have.  Text-to speech, that&#8217;s one that works. Next is to get FreePBX v2.8 to fix the "lookup local prefixes". It&#8217;s for the home phone and want to keep it for just local dialing. So far this latest download will not let me do that. There might be more things wrong, I&#8217;m doing it in little steps.</p>
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		By: James Crowe		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Crowe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 16:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think Nerd Vittles is doing a fantastic great job.
Without them and their blog I would probably not be able to have the great opportunities and success with Asterisk.
This blog is a life line to many who use and configure Asterisk. Keep up the fantastic work Ward and a many thanks to you and your team.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Nerd Vittles is doing a fantastic great job.<br />
Without them and their blog I would probably not be able to have the great opportunities and success with Asterisk.<br />
This blog is a life line to many who use and configure Asterisk. Keep up the fantastic work Ward and a many thanks to you and your team.</p>
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		By: ewb		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ewb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 12:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As an individual that put together his first Asterisk derived PBX using a different distribution than PiaF, I would have to admit that the reason I explored nerdvittles and PiaF was because my second and third PBX installs were needing to be significantly easier than my prior experience.  I was pleased to find that installing PiaF with the nerdvittles extensions provided me with a working system very quickly.

Unfortunately, building new systems to replace older hardware has me thinking that Digium may not be as committed to this tool as I am.  My consideration of purchasing hardware from Digium has definitely been impacted, and my thoughts have turned to how the job can be done potentially without Asterisk.  It makes me sad.  Maybe enough contemplation will help resolve this situation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an individual that put together his first Asterisk derived PBX using a different distribution than PiaF, I would have to admit that the reason I explored nerdvittles and PiaF was because my second and third PBX installs were needing to be significantly easier than my prior experience.  I was pleased to find that installing PiaF with the nerdvittles extensions provided me with a working system very quickly.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, building new systems to replace older hardware has me thinking that Digium may not be as committed to this tool as I am.  My consideration of purchasing hardware from Digium has definitely been impacted, and my thoughts have turned to how the job can be done potentially without Asterisk.  It makes me sad.  Maybe enough contemplation will help resolve this situation.</p>
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		By: Kanti Purohit		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kanti Purohit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 12:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ward:
 
Over the years, I have crawled many blogs and forums related to Asterisk. Long ago, when Asterisk@Home first appeared, I thought I was in heaven because I never could configure bare Asterisk. 

Then came along Nerd Vittles. What can I say - you are the best, the most helpful, and the most responsive. Above all, you anticipate what problems your readers may encounter - especially the newbies.

I have agreed with you on Digium&#039;s developmental and testing issues you brought to light. Having been involved with software most of my professional life, I couldn&#039;t agree more with Ian&#039;s comment: &quot;It is a *damning* indictment that Digium does not have enough faith in Asterisk to use it as their own system.&quot; To me, that&#039;s the first rule of development.

I remember when I first got involved with VoIP. I knew I had to &quot;cut the cord&quot; if really wanted to learn. So, when I first subscribed to a VoIP service from Vonage, I literally cut the incoming telephone wires from Verizon. Same with Asterisk, no commercial PBX. 

Finally, as a marketer, I concur with the need to use hyperbole - or controversy - to make a point, to instigate a debate.

I thank you - and Digium - for what you have given to the world!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ward:</p>
<p>Over the years, I have crawled many blogs and forums related to Asterisk. Long ago, when Asterisk@Home first appeared, I thought I was in heaven because I never could configure bare Asterisk. </p>
<p>Then came along Nerd Vittles. What can I say &#8211; you are the best, the most helpful, and the most responsive. Above all, you anticipate what problems your readers may encounter &#8211; especially the newbies.</p>
<p>I have agreed with you on Digium&#8217;s developmental and testing issues you brought to light. Having been involved with software most of my professional life, I couldn&#8217;t agree more with Ian&#8217;s comment: "It is a *damning* indictment that Digium does not have enough faith in Asterisk to use it as their own system." To me, that&#8217;s the first rule of development.</p>
<p>I remember when I first got involved with VoIP. I knew I had to "cut the cord" if really wanted to learn. So, when I first subscribed to a VoIP service from Vonage, I literally cut the incoming telephone wires from Verizon. Same with Asterisk, no commercial PBX. </p>
<p>Finally, as a marketer, I concur with the need to use hyperbole &#8211; or controversy &#8211; to make a point, to instigate a debate.</p>
<p>I thank you &#8211; and Digium &#8211; for what you have given to the world!</p>
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		By: Ian Worthington		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian Worthington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 07:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ward, I think you undersell yourself.  It is a *damning* indictment that Digium does not have enough faith in Asterisk to use it as their own system.

Maybe the analogy Rod was searching for involved something to do with a well recognised chef trying experimental methods of cooking fish with toxic ingredients and trying them out first on other people?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ward, I think you undersell yourself.  It is a *damning* indictment that Digium does not have enough faith in Asterisk to use it as their own system.</p>
<p>Maybe the analogy Rod was searching for involved something to do with a well recognised chef trying experimental methods of cooking fish with toxic ingredients and trying them out first on other people?</p>
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		By: IsaacL		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[IsaacL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2011 19:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well said, Ward, and thanks for all your contributions to the Asterisk and PBX in a Flash communities!!]]></description>
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