Comments on: The $10,000 Hoax: Meet Tesla’s Full Self-Driving Vehicle

By: Jeffro

Jeffro — Thu, 20 Jan 2022 03:48:23 +0000

I test drove a Tesla with self driving. We hopped on Interstate 80 and set the cruise to 75. I turned on self-driving and gingerly took my hands off the wheel. All seemed great and I was super excited. All of a sudden, we started swerving all over the lane. He had me pull off at the next exit and he did something on the panel to the mothership. The panel said it was recalibrating the cameras. We got back on the interstate and self-driving worked ok. I ended up getting a used Porsche 911 for slightly more..

By: Nerd Uno

Nerd Uno — Wed, 12 Jan 2022 21:09:36 +0000

https://www.theverge.com/2022/1/12/22880305/tesla-fsd-beta-california-dmv-autonomous-vehicle-letter

By: Scott

Scott — Thu, 09 Dec 2021 15:04:53 +0000

Glad you’re happy with the Q8. Adaptive Cruise control isn’t FSD. I’ll agree with you, FSD is a pipe dream. That said, Still way happier with Autopilot 1 on a 2015 S. So long as I recognize it’s limitations, it’s the perfect companion for the long highway commutes I have. Somewhere along the way Elon lost sight. Is the goal safer driving, or Full Autonomy? IMHO Tesla lost their way when they stopped offering EAP (Enhanced Auto Pilot) on the AP2 and higher vehicles. (or, of which AP1 can do most of the EAP functions).

By: Tony V.

Tony V. — Wed, 08 Dec 2021 17:06:12 +0000

Interesting. Furthest I have gone was 220 miles at a time and our 2nd X never lost the lane center either – terrain, edge cases, etc. likely the difference.

As I mentioned, if Tesla decides to add the ability to make small corrections without disengagement might be nice update, but I still have concerns system not sensing the difference to larger correction (i.e. I need the system off now!) which would be a serious safety hazard.

FWIW – as of Q2 2021 cumulative data – 1 accident per 4.41 million miles driven on Tesla AutoPilot … vs 1 accident per 1.2 million miles driven by Tesla’s w/o AutoPilot on … not too shabby

[WM: It wouldn’t be a safety hazard in a non-Tesla vehicle because the driver’s steering ALwAYS takes precedence over the LKA controller. That’s the major drawback in the Tesla approach because the driver can’t steer the vehicle without first turning off AutoPilot. As for the stats, Tesla is the only company keeping tabs on your AutoPilot history, but it would appear logical that the LKA feature in other vehicles would yield similar results… minus the firetruck gotchas.]

https://cleantechnica.com/2021/12/07/tesla-1-crash-per-4-41-million-miles-traveled-on-autopilot/

By: Tony V.

Tony V. — Wed, 08 Dec 2021 01:46:56 +0000

And you can (I always have) permanently disable the lane changing feature with a tap, in Tesla’s AutoPilot, for a more apples to apples experience with other systems from legacy auto. The ability to assist the Audi system without it disengaging is interesting – not sure if that is really better or worse though, I guess depends on the correction being made and if it can distinguish between minor (fine) & major (disengagement should absolutely be happening!) – I am sure more will be reviewed on that as cars get on the road (and if it does distinguish, I am guessing a quickie software update will add that feature into AutoPilot which will be nice!)

[WM: I’m reminded of the mom who goes to watch her little boy in the school parade and remarks to her friend that her little boy is the only one in step. Tesla’s AutoPilot claim has been the Big Lie since Day One. All of the other car manufacturers provide a clearly-labeled driver assist feature. The problem with AutoPilot is you can’t assist the car in staying in its lane. You literally have to seize control of the steering wheel by yanking on it which also turns off AutoPilot. With the other vehicles including the Audi, you simply guide the car back into its lane if it should ever lose its way. In our 500+ mile journey, the Audi never lost the center of the lane a single time. Wish I could say the same about our two Teslas.]

By: NerdUno

NerdUno — Sun, 05 Dec 2021 20:01:32 +0000

Just completed a 500-mile roundtrip to Asheville in our new Audi Q8. What a car! Audi barely mentions that the 2022 edition comes with lane-keeping assist. And, if you're curious, it is flawless. No dangerous lane darts into other lanes as we experienced regularly with both of our Teslas. Run to your nearest Audi dealer and buy this car if you can find one. You won't be disappointed. Here's how Audi's Adaptive Cruise Control stacks up against Tesla's AutoPilot.

By: Hillclimber

Hillclimber — Sat, 04 Dec 2021 11:38:45 +0000

Relax. Skynet has been self-aware for a few years already and nothing weird happened, right?

https://xkcd.com/1046

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skynet_(Terminator)

By: Tony V.

Tony V. — Fri, 03 Dec 2021 17:33:35 +0000

I know you have increasingly become disappointed with Tesla, but I have to say among many, many owners I know (some with FSD) your experiences are the only I am aware of anecdotally that are near opposite of all others (myself included, our 3rd Model X we expect to get in the next 30 days or so). Not sure why, maybe just got the odd duck vehicle, etc. which I am truly saddened to think may have happened (you are the best as all of us are grateful for!) — but folks I know with FSD are blown away at the driving accuracy & ability to navigate trash cans, cyclists, cones, etc. while still safely/practically traveling to destination — exceeding most daily drivers skills these days (sadly). What I have seen also, mind blowing.

Anyhow, to those who may read your experience I would offer to keep an open mind & try one out themselves if/when possible – when autonomy comes it will likely be from Tesla far, far, far before anyone else … as for public road testing, it is useful to keep in mind no great advancements in history were ever made in a lab/controlled-environment alone & their safety record is an order of magnitude better than any auto manufacturer in history (and improving).