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		By: Arnaldo M Pereira		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arnaldo M Pereira]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for this great article, which is accurate. My efforts on new products or deployments are all with FreeSWITCH and I must say it&#039;s ready for serious usage.

Of course there&#039;s a lack of a GUI and documentation, which I&#039;m sure will soon be solved. As it is now, it&#039;s better than any other solution I&#039;ve seen.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this great article, which is accurate. My efforts on new products or deployments are all with FreeSWITCH and I must say it&#8217;s ready for serious usage.</p>
<p>Of course there&#8217;s a lack of a GUI and documentation, which I&#8217;m sure will soon be solved. As it is now, it&#8217;s better than any other solution I&#8217;ve seen.</p>
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		By: Fred		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fred]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 03:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Based on some of the comments I&#039;ve read here it should be pointed out that FreeSwitch is NOT an Asterisk clone.  Just as TDM types like to think inside the box about SIP, please don&#039;t use Asterisk to measure FreeSwitch or OpenSER - they are fundamentally different.  FreeSwitch et al does SIP and only SIP - RTP is on it&#039;s own.  All other applications bolt on (typically with &quot;XML&quot;). This puts FreeSwitch MILES ahead of the pack when doing collaboration and presence (FMC and all the rest).  

VoIP is about to take off (for real this time).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on some of the comments I&#8217;ve read here it should be pointed out that FreeSwitch is NOT an Asterisk clone.  Just as TDM types like to think inside the box about SIP, please don&#8217;t use Asterisk to measure FreeSwitch or OpenSER &#8211; they are fundamentally different.  FreeSwitch et al does SIP and only SIP &#8211; RTP is on it&#8217;s own.  All other applications bolt on (typically with "XML"). This puts FreeSwitch MILES ahead of the pack when doing collaboration and presence (FMC and all the rest).  </p>
<p>VoIP is about to take off (for real this time).</p>
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		By: ward		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Another nail in the coffin...

On Wednesday 13 August 2008 08:27:00 Kevin P. Fleming responded to Ralfe Poisson:

&gt;&gt; Ralfe Poisson wrote:
&gt; &gt; I&#039;m busy developing an AGI application which was working well under 1.4.
&gt; &gt; I&#039;ve just upgraded to Asterisk 1.6 and am having two issues which I can&#039;t seem to sort out.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Kevin Fleming&#039;s response:
&gt; Your problems are caused by using vertical bar (pipe) characters as
&gt; argument separators; Asterisk 1.6 supports *only* commas as argument
&gt; separators to applications, unlike 1.2 and 1.4 which supported both.
&gt;
&gt; This is documented in the UPGRADE.txt file, and that file even tells you
&gt; about a configuration option to provide backward compatibility if you
&gt; need it. Please read the upgrade documentation when upgrading to new
&gt; major releases of Asterisk :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another nail in the coffin&#8230;</p>
<p>On Wednesday 13 August 2008 08:27:00 Kevin P. Fleming responded to Ralfe Poisson:</p>
<p>>> Ralfe Poisson wrote:<br />
> > I&#8217;m busy developing an AGI application which was working well under 1.4.<br />
> > I&#8217;ve just upgraded to Asterisk 1.6 and am having two issues which I can&#8217;t seem to sort out.<br />
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><br />
> Kevin Fleming&#8217;s response:<br />
> Your problems are caused by using vertical bar (pipe) characters as<br />
> argument separators; Asterisk 1.6 supports *only* commas as argument<br />
> separators to applications, unlike 1.2 and 1.4 which supported both.<br />
><br />
> This is documented in the UPGRADE.txt file, and that file even tells you<br />
> about a configuration option to provide backward compatibility if you<br />
> need it. Please read the upgrade documentation when upgrading to new<br />
> major releases of Asterisk 🙂</p>
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		By: Carlos Talbot		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carlos Talbot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 04:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Last week at Cluecon &#039;08 there was a presentation on another Gui for FreeSWITCH. It should be out soon. http://www.d-man.org/news/2008/07/26/66/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last week at Cluecon &#8217;08 there was a presentation on another Gui for FreeSWITCH. It should be out soon. <a href="http://www.d-man.org/news/2008/07/26/66/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.d-man.org/news/2008/07/26/66/</a></p>
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		By: ronald laing		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ronald laing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 04:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good article, I had been hoping for some time that you might do a similar piece on Callweaver, a open source project that addresses many of the shortcomings of asterisk. The big advantage for all those using asterisk is that Callweaver is similar enough that the front end FreePbx would work with it with limited modification. However not having the technical depth in linux or programming have never tried to get it going.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article, I had been hoping for some time that you might do a similar piece on Callweaver, a open source project that addresses many of the shortcomings of asterisk. The big advantage for all those using asterisk is that Callweaver is similar enough that the front end FreePbx would work with it with limited modification. However not having the technical depth in linux or programming have never tried to get it going.</p>
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		By: Undrhil		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Undrhil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 02:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So, does this mean that PBXiaF 1.4 (or 2.0) will be based on FreeSwitch?  Can you post a link to any of the GUI projects in development for FreeSwitch?  Also, how well does the Windows implementation of FreeSwitch work?

I have been in love with Asterisk since the day I picked up the first edition O&#039;Reilly book about it.  I really wish the developers would wake up and smell the coffee.  They need to take a look at another up-and-coming open source project which have multiple versions out: Linux.  When a new major kernel version is released, does the Linux community change programming structure on the whim?  No.  They know it would break things and that would discourage people from using it.  Do the good folks at Digium think that the Asterisk community is any different?

&lt;i&gt;[WM: No news yet on PBXiaF 1.4. As for a GUI, I&#039;ve updated the article and added a link, but &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wikipbx.org/wikipbx?cat=home&quot;&gt;here it is&lt;/a&gt; again.]&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, does this mean that PBXiaF 1.4 (or 2.0) will be based on FreeSwitch?  Can you post a link to any of the GUI projects in development for FreeSwitch?  Also, how well does the Windows implementation of FreeSwitch work?</p>
<p>I have been in love with Asterisk since the day I picked up the first edition O&#8217;Reilly book about it.  I really wish the developers would wake up and smell the coffee.  They need to take a look at another up-and-coming open source project which have multiple versions out: Linux.  When a new major kernel version is released, does the Linux community change programming structure on the whim?  No.  They know it would break things and that would discourage people from using it.  Do the good folks at Digium think that the Asterisk community is any different?</p>
<p><i>[WM: No news yet on PBXiaF 1.4. As for a GUI, I&#8217;ve updated the article and added a link, but <a href="http://www.wikipbx.org/wikipbx?cat=home">here it is</a> again.]</i></p>
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		By: ward		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 01:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For a terrific FreeSwitch tutorial with sample code that will get you up and running with trunks, extensions, voicemail, and an IVR in less than 5 minutes, &lt;a href=&quot;http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/SOHO_PBX_Example&quot;&gt;go here&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a terrific FreeSwitch tutorial with sample code that will get you up and running with trunks, extensions, voicemail, and an IVR in less than 5 minutes, <a href="http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/SOHO_PBX_Example">go here</a>.</p>
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		By: Michael Collins		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Collins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 23:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ward,
A fine article you&#039;ve written!  FreeSWITCH is definitely on the rise.  The shortcomings are, as usual, the things that programmers and developers like doing the least: GUIs and documentation.  We are working diligently on both fronts.  Hopefully things will continue to improve steadily as they have been doing for the past few years.  We have quite a number of &quot;Asterisk refugees&quot; coming over and we are trying our best to get them up to speed.  BTW, if you are familiar with both Asterisk and FreeSWITCH then we invite you to add your knowledge to the &quot;Rosetta Stone&quot; document:
http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Rosetta_stone

Thanks again for a great article.  We look forward to seeing &quot;Uncle Ward&quot; cook up some more goodies based on FreeSWITCH!

-MC]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ward,<br />
A fine article you&#8217;ve written!  FreeSWITCH is definitely on the rise.  The shortcomings are, as usual, the things that programmers and developers like doing the least: GUIs and documentation.  We are working diligently on both fronts.  Hopefully things will continue to improve steadily as they have been doing for the past few years.  We have quite a number of "Asterisk refugees" coming over and we are trying our best to get them up to speed.  BTW, if you are familiar with both Asterisk and FreeSWITCH then we invite you to add your knowledge to the "Rosetta Stone" document:<br />
<a href="http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Rosetta_stone" rel="nofollow ugc">http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Rosetta_stone</a></p>
<p>Thanks again for a great article.  We look forward to seeing "Uncle Ward" cook up some more goodies based on FreeSWITCH!</p>
<p>-MC</p>
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		By: James		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 03:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I like the concept of freeswitch. Much like Asterisk it will need a GUI to gain mainstream apeal I and technical people such as myself could probably do well with a book called freeswitch the new face of telephony&#039;s future ( I want a penny a book if you use that)...  anyhow the only thing missing is good Hardware support. It works now but think the setup is over complicated or under documented. Over all solid hardware support + Gui for the mainstream it will deffinately compete.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the concept of freeswitch. Much like Asterisk it will need a GUI to gain mainstream apeal I and technical people such as myself could probably do well with a book called freeswitch the new face of telephony&#8217;s future ( I want a penny a book if you use that)&#8230;  anyhow the only thing missing is good Hardware support. It works now but think the setup is over complicated or under documented. Over all solid hardware support + Gui for the mainstream it will deffinately compete.</p>
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		By: Ryan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ryan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[WARD - I LOVE YOU!!!!!  Faxing is back!!!!!!  I cannot wait!!!!  Thanks!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WARD &#8211; I LOVE YOU!!!!!  Faxing is back!!!!!!  I cannot wait!!!!  Thanks!</p>
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		By: paul		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Speaking of Open Source fax, I found all of the files for setting up SpanDSP and installing app_rxfax and app_txfax - except for the asterisk patch file. Every download link I came across was a dead end. Let me know if anyone finds it.

I really liked your contrasting of hardware backward compatibility to software backward compatibility. Great point.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of Open Source fax, I found all of the files for setting up SpanDSP and installing app_rxfax and app_txfax &#8211; except for the asterisk patch file. Every download link I came across was a dead end. Let me know if anyone finds it.</p>
<p>I really liked your contrasting of hardware backward compatibility to software backward compatibility. Great point.</p>
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		By: Rafael Cortes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rafael Cortes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 04:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Finally! I will be testing this, I am still using 1.4 and 1.2, I have clients I haven&#039;t been able to upgrade to 1.4 because of some custom integratiosn that no longer work, and would cost too much to update. And I see the same thing is going to happen to my new clients once 1.4 becomes obsolete... It&#039;s going to be another PITA.

I really hope FreeSwitch gets to the point Asterisk is right now, and we&#039;ll see if Asterisk development will listen then!

Thanks for the info Uncle Ward!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally! I will be testing this, I am still using 1.4 and 1.2, I have clients I haven&#8217;t been able to upgrade to 1.4 because of some custom integratiosn that no longer work, and would cost too much to update. And I see the same thing is going to happen to my new clients once 1.4 becomes obsolete&#8230; It&#8217;s going to be another PITA.</p>
<p>I really hope FreeSwitch gets to the point Asterisk is right now, and we&#8217;ll see if Asterisk development will listen then!</p>
<p>Thanks for the info Uncle Ward!</p>
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		By: JD Austin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JD Austin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 01:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I look forward to Free Switch; I cringe every time I have to upgrade asterisk!  I had to completely re-implement a system last year because of the 1.2-&gt;1.4 changes.  I&#039;m not sure I&#039;ll ever go to 1.6 if I have an option not to.  Thank you for giving us something stable to work from... it saves me a good chunk of time over building the system from scratch.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I look forward to Free Switch; I cringe every time I have to upgrade asterisk!  I had to completely re-implement a system last year because of the 1.2->1.4 changes.  I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;ll ever go to 1.6 if I have an option not to.  Thank you for giving us something stable to work from&#8230; it saves me a good chunk of time over building the system from scratch.</p>
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