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		By: Bill Greenberg		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Greenberg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2014 15:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hmm, odd - I hadn&#039;t heard about all the bluetooth problems but it sounds terrible. I have had no issues pairing iPhone 5, 5s and 6 to both 2013 RAV4 and 2014 Harley Ultra Limited, nor have I heard of any major issues from anyone else. YMMV. I sold a 2 yr old iPhone 5 for more than the upgrade cost of the 6 on AT&#038;T. The new plans are so dang confusing I really am not even sure what my monthly bill is going to be. They end up screwing you one way or the other, though, so I just went with yet another 2 year contract. 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, odd &#8211; I hadn&#8217;t heard about all the bluetooth problems but it sounds terrible. I have had no issues pairing iPhone 5, 5s and 6 to both 2013 RAV4 and 2014 Harley Ultra Limited, nor have I heard of any major issues from anyone else. YMMV. I sold a 2 yr old iPhone 5 for more than the upgrade cost of the 6 on AT&amp;T. The new plans are so dang confusing I really am not even sure what my monthly bill is going to be. They end up screwing you one way or the other, though, so I just went with yet another 2 year contract. </p>
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		By: John Goodman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Goodman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2014 13:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[“When every $100 Android smartphone can pair with almost any vehicle and work, we get back to our initial question: ‘Can it make calls?’ ... For $1,000, one would expect all of the basics on a smartphone to function correctly.”

Do Android smartphones really cost $100 outright or is that the contract-subsidized price? No one needs to pay $1,000 to get an iPhone if they’re willing to sign a service contract.

&lt;i&gt;[WM: Been to WalMart lately? Here&#039;s an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.walmart.com/ip/36202741&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;LG Android phone for under $60&lt;/a&gt;. There are many others. As for &quot;no one needs to pay $1,000 to get an iPhone,&quot; the big IF of course is signing a 2-year contract and paying at least double the monthly cost with the potential for huge overages on your data charges. The article noted that the $1,000 cost was based upon a desire to use StraightTalk with its unlimited data plan and AT&amp;T&#039;s cellular network.]&lt;/i&gt; ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“When every $100 Android smartphone can pair with almost any vehicle and work, we get back to our initial question: ‘Can it make calls?’ &#8230; For $1,000, one would expect all of the basics on a smartphone to function correctly.”</p>
<p>Do Android smartphones really cost $100 outright or is that the contract-subsidized price? No one needs to pay $1,000 to get an iPhone if they’re willing to sign a service contract.</p>
<p><i>[WM: Been to WalMart lately? Here&#8217;s an <a href="http://www.walmart.com/ip/36202741" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">LG Android phone for under $60</a>. There are many others. As for "no one needs to pay $1,000 to get an iPhone," the big IF of course is signing a 2-year contract and paying at least double the monthly cost with the potential for huge overages on your data charges. The article noted that the $1,000 cost was based upon a desire to use StraightTalk with its unlimited data plan and AT&#038;T&#8217;s cellular network.]</i> </p>
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		By: Ross		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ross]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2014 19:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bluetooth has been solid in my 2011 BMW 335i since Beta 1 of iOS 8 on my iPhone 5. With my iPhone 6 Plus it was fine with iOS 8.0 release, and still solid with the current 8.1 beta. I don&#039;t think the total blame goes to Apple because if it was a fundamental flaw in their Bluetooth then I would be seeing it too. I don&#039;t think you are bashing Apple, but I don&#039;t think you&#039;re completely accurate in your assessment either since it doesn&#039;t affect everyone.

&lt;i&gt;[WM: Never suggested that it affected everyone. I suspect part of the blame lies with GM. Starting to wonder if perhaps GM is making Bluetooth less reliable as a way to encourage migration to their new dedicated AT&amp;T car service. Coincidentally, it includes features such as Pandora.]&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bluetooth has been solid in my 2011 BMW 335i since Beta 1 of iOS 8 on my iPhone 5. With my iPhone 6 Plus it was fine with iOS 8.0 release, and still solid with the current 8.1 beta. I don&#8217;t think the total blame goes to Apple because if it was a fundamental flaw in their Bluetooth then I would be seeing it too. I don&#8217;t think you are bashing Apple, but I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re completely accurate in your assessment either since it doesn&#8217;t affect everyone.</p>
<p><i>[WM: Never suggested that it affected everyone. I suspect part of the blame lies with GM. Starting to wonder if perhaps GM is making Bluetooth less reliable as a way to encourage migration to their new dedicated AT&#038;T car service. Coincidentally, it includes features such as Pandora.]</i></p>
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		By: Jeffsters		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffsters]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2014 19:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;“At this point, General Motors is not seeing any increased volume of customer Bluetooth issues related specifically to Apple’s latest products and operating systems,” wrote Stuart Fowle in an email to AUTO Connected Car News. “If our customers have a question about pairing a Bluetooth device, they are encouraged to visit their dealer’s Certified Technology Expert...most GM vehicle owners at General Motors offices have not had issues with iOS 8 and or iPhone 6/6+&quot;.

http://www.autoconnectedcar.com/2014/10/gm-offers-ios-8-8-02-bluetooth-pairing-help-4-iphone-6655c5s4s-with-gmchevycadillacbuick/

I have personally had no issues with our 2011 Ford Edge, 2012 Mercedes, or 2013 Ford Mustang...your mileage my vary!  ;-)

&lt;i&gt;[WM: We actually contacted both GM and our dealer before writing the article. Some of the comments in the referenced article suggest that GM may be underplaying the problem a bit because of existing relationships with some of the carriers. In any case, Bluetooth doesn&#039;t work in our 2014 vehicle as we have noted in the article. Thanks for the link.

UPDATE: Just spoke to another GM rep who said that a USB connection was now necessary to get complete functionality with the iPhone 6. That&#039;s a polite way of saying Bluetooth is broken.]&lt;/i&gt;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"“At this point, General Motors is not seeing any increased volume of customer Bluetooth issues related specifically to Apple’s latest products and operating systems,” wrote Stuart Fowle in an email to AUTO Connected Car News. “If our customers have a question about pairing a Bluetooth device, they are encouraged to visit their dealer’s Certified Technology Expert&#8230;most GM vehicle owners at General Motors offices have not had issues with iOS 8 and or iPhone 6/6+".</p>
<p><a href="http://www.autoconnectedcar.com/2014/10/gm-offers-ios-8-8-02-bluetooth-pairing-help-4-iphone-6655c5s4s-with-gmchevycadillacbuick/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.autoconnectedcar.com/2014/10/gm-offers-ios-8-8-02-bluetooth-pairing-help-4-iphone-6655c5s4s-with-gmchevycadillacbuick/</a></p>
<p>I have personally had no issues with our 2011 Ford Edge, 2012 Mercedes, or 2013 Ford Mustang&#8230;your mileage my vary!  😉</p>
<p><i>[WM: We actually contacted both GM and our dealer before writing the article. Some of the comments in the referenced article suggest that GM may be underplaying the problem a bit because of existing relationships with some of the carriers. In any case, Bluetooth doesn&#8217;t work in our 2014 vehicle as we have noted in the article. Thanks for the link.</p>
<p>UPDATE: Just spoke to another GM rep who said that a USB connection was now necessary to get complete functionality with the iPhone 6. That&#8217;s a polite way of saying Bluetooth is broken.]</i></p>
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		By: M		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2014 18:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For what it&#039;s worth, bluetooth on my Vzw first gen Moto X with android 4.4.4 only works great until I throw Bluetooth LE devices into the mix.  Then it starts bugging out, pairing unreliably, and requiring reboots in order to get back to a reliable state for BT 2.x devices (eg my VW).
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, bluetooth on my Vzw first gen Moto X with android 4.4.4 only works great until I throw Bluetooth LE devices into the mix.  Then it starts bugging out, pairing unreliably, and requiring reboots in order to get back to a reliable state for BT 2.x devices (eg my VW).</p>
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		By: Matthew		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2014 17:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Your comment about your bluetooth issue made me wonder something...  This is from GM&#039;s &quot;total connect&quot; website:

&quot;GM vehicles allow up to five Bluetooth®-enabled devices to be paired with a vehicle at once.&quot;

If you have 8, perhaps that is the source of the problem.  Have you tried deleting all the pairings and starting over?  I was helping somebody with bluetooth and their car on a new iPhone, and they had restored their phone from a backup of their old one.  It was showing up to the car as if it were the old phone.  I changed the phone name and voila!

&lt;i&gt;[WM: Thanks, Matthew. We don&#039;t have 8 paired now. But we&#039;ve tested the vehicle with 8 different types of phones. Good suggestion though.]&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your comment about your bluetooth issue made me wonder something&#8230;  This is from GM&#8217;s "total connect" website:</p>
<p>"GM vehicles allow up to five Bluetooth®-enabled devices to be paired with a vehicle at once."</p>
<p>If you have 8, perhaps that is the source of the problem.  Have you tried deleting all the pairings and starting over?  I was helping somebody with bluetooth and their car on a new iPhone, and they had restored their phone from a backup of their old one.  It was showing up to the car as if it were the old phone.  I changed the phone name and voila!</p>
<p><i>[WM: Thanks, Matthew. We don&#8217;t have 8 paired now. But we&#8217;ve tested the vehicle with 8 different types of phones. Good suggestion though.]</i></p>
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		By: Fred		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fred]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2014 16:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My iPhone 4 worked great in my 2011 Subaru Forester.  My iPhone 6 must be manually connected every time I start the car.

I&#039;ve read that this is a known problem, specific to certain vehicle Bluetooth stack, and should be fixed in an upcoming OS release.  For now it&#039;s frustrating.

Otherwise the phone is great, and a fantastic upgrade from my 4-year-old phone.  I&#039;ve used Android devices, and I can&#039;t stand the UI, so I&#039;m sticking with Apple.  But it did switch from ATT to Verizon - because I despise them both for their billing and customer support, but Verizon still supposedly has better cell coverage.

&lt;i&gt;[WM: Funny you&#039;d mention the Android UI. We have the exact opposite preference. Flipping through a half dozen screens of random apps to find the one you want to use is downright awful in iOS. And having to do a search for an app every time you want to use it is even worse. Would an alphabetized list be that difficult to implement? Oh, but wait, there is no way to differentiate favorites from the whole app enchilada, unlike Android. DSFDF. ]&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My iPhone 4 worked great in my 2011 Subaru Forester.  My iPhone 6 must be manually connected every time I start the car.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read that this is a known problem, specific to certain vehicle Bluetooth stack, and should be fixed in an upcoming OS release.  For now it&#8217;s frustrating.</p>
<p>Otherwise the phone is great, and a fantastic upgrade from my 4-year-old phone.  I&#8217;ve used Android devices, and I can&#8217;t stand the UI, so I&#8217;m sticking with Apple.  But it did switch from ATT to Verizon &#8211; because I despise them both for their billing and customer support, but Verizon still supposedly has better cell coverage.</p>
<p><i>[WM: Funny you&#8217;d mention the Android UI. We have the exact opposite preference. Flipping through a half dozen screens of random apps to find the one you want to use is downright awful in iOS. And having to do a search for an app every time you want to use it is even worse. Would an alphabetized list be that difficult to implement? Oh, but wait, there is no way to differentiate favorites from the whole app enchilada, unlike Android. DSFDF. ]</i></p>
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		By: dbs		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dbs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2014 15:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Both the iPhone 5s and iPhone 6 work perfectly with my vehicle radio. No setup required -- turn on bluetooth and the car finds the phone and connects it to the in-car system automatically. Hands free, make/receive calls, phone book, etc. it all works great. Maybe the problem is your car, not the iPhone?

&lt;i&gt;[WM: I&#039;d tend to agree with you if we didn&#039;t have 8 other phones that work perfectly in this 2014 vehicle. Considering the fact that GM uses the same technology in all of its vehicles, you&#039;d think it wouldn&#039;t be that difficult to at least test one new GM car or truck since they&#039;re the largest vehicle manufacturer in the world! :roll: Glad to hear things are working for you. Wish you had included the type of vehicle. That would be more helpful to other readers. Thanks.]&lt;/i&gt;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both the iPhone 5s and iPhone 6 work perfectly with my vehicle radio. No setup required &#8212; turn on bluetooth and the car finds the phone and connects it to the in-car system automatically. Hands free, make/receive calls, phone book, etc. it all works great. Maybe the problem is your car, not the iPhone?</p>
<p><i>[WM: I&#8217;d tend to agree with you if we didn&#8217;t have 8 other phones that work perfectly in this 2014 vehicle. Considering the fact that GM uses the same technology in all of its vehicles, you&#8217;d think it wouldn&#8217;t be that difficult to at least test one new GM car or truck since they&#8217;re the largest vehicle manufacturer in the world! 🙄 Glad to hear things are working for you. Wish you had included the type of vehicle. That would be more helpful to other readers. Thanks.]</i></p>
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