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		By: Rahn Jensen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rahn Jensen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 03:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You failed in your article to explain any details of WHY Elans system is more expensive, and superior.  I hope that your readers don&#039;t walk away from this site thinking that they are getting a 50k dollar Elan style system from your pieced together system.  I am not knocking your ideas, I just think that your article unfairly beats up Elan&#039;s products.  An Elan touch panel can do EVERYTHING that you have mentioned here and tons more.  I know because I am an Elan dealer.  My systems usually run about 60k to 120k and would blow your mind.  If you are ever in the phoenix area feel free to email me and I will show you a few systems.

&lt;i&gt;[WM: We&#039;ve had the Elan tour. We weren&#039;t suggesting there was anything wrong with the systems other than cost. The Sonos system is anything but a &quot;pieced together system.&quot; And, yes, we would hope the Elan touchpanel had similar functionality. After all, it costs 10 times as much. If you don&#039;t believe our recommendation, visit a Tweeters or HiFi Buys and take one home for a test drive. You&#039;ve got nothing to lose... and you could even become a dealer.]&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You failed in your article to explain any details of WHY Elans system is more expensive, and superior.  I hope that your readers don&#8217;t walk away from this site thinking that they are getting a 50k dollar Elan style system from your pieced together system.  I am not knocking your ideas, I just think that your article unfairly beats up Elan&#8217;s products.  An Elan touch panel can do EVERYTHING that you have mentioned here and tons more.  I know because I am an Elan dealer.  My systems usually run about 60k to 120k and would blow your mind.  If you are ever in the phoenix area feel free to email me and I will show you a few systems.</p>
<p><i>[WM: We&#8217;ve had the Elan tour. We weren&#8217;t suggesting there was anything wrong with the systems other than cost. The Sonos system is anything but a "pieced together system." And, yes, we would hope the Elan touchpanel had similar functionality. After all, it costs 10 times as much. If you don&#8217;t believe our recommendation, visit a Tweeters or HiFi Buys and take one home for a test drive. You&#8217;ve got nothing to lose&#8230; and you could even become a dealer.]</i></p>
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		By: Nick		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 20:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I looked at the sonos pretty carefully...even ordered one to play with.
The controller is GREAT - even water resistant and since I have put speakers in showers, that is nice.
At the end of the day I owned too much DRMed music from the itunes store and felt like the price tag on the sonos was too high. 
I&#039;m using a nokia 770 as a controller for my Airport zones (currently running 7 here at home)
Write ups at: 
http://www.archatechs.com/blog/files/category-5.html
It runs about $300 a zone, and you miss some of the sonos&#039;s features, but you can get the basic functionality.

Of course, no I&#039;m totally into SACD and DVD-Audio which means I&#039;m back to buying dual-discs and ripping them...so I may look at stripping the DRM from my itunes stuff and going to the sonos.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I looked at the sonos pretty carefully&#8230;even ordered one to play with.<br />
The controller is GREAT &#8211; even water resistant and since I have put speakers in showers, that is nice.<br />
At the end of the day I owned too much DRMed music from the itunes store and felt like the price tag on the sonos was too high.<br />
I&#8217;m using a nokia 770 as a controller for my Airport zones (currently running 7 here at home)<br />
Write ups at:<br />
<a href="http://www.archatechs.com/blog/files/category-5.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.archatechs.com/blog/files/category-5.html</a><br />
It runs about $300 a zone, and you miss some of the sonos&#8217;s features, but you can get the basic functionality.</p>
<p>Of course, no I&#8217;m totally into SACD and DVD-Audio which means I&#8217;m back to buying dual-discs and ripping them&#8230;so I may look at stripping the DRM from my itunes stuff and going to the sonos.</p>
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		By: Mark		</title>
		<link>https://nerdvittles.com/the-whole-house-ipod/comment-page-1/#comment-1697</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 16:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Sonos is a great product, but anyone looking for a home audio streaming solution should also look at the Squeezebox from www.slimdevices.com.  I have two of them and am very happy and I&#039;m unaware of any major functionality that the Sonos has that Squeezebox lacks.  The Squeezebox doesn&#039;t have the fancy &quot;ipod look&quot; of the Sonos, but it&#039;s less expensive and more hacker friendly.  Each player costs $249 (wired) or $299 (wireless).  You don&#039;t need to buy anything else as long as you have a PC (any  OS) to run the free (open source perl) slimserver that takes care of library indexing, web server, media streaming etc.  Slim Devices doesn&#039;t offer an amplified solution so you need to connect to a receiver or something.  They also don&#039;t have a fancy ipod-like controller.  Your Squeezeboxes are controlled either via the included old-fashioned remote, or via the web interface.  Ward will probably like the fact that there is already a skin to access the web interface from your Nokia 770 (http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?SlimserverAndNokia770).

There is also a free open source java soft player that will run on any PC and let you access the same server.  One of the big benefits of Slim&#039;s architecture is it&#039;s extensibility.  There is an active development community writing plugins to do things like read RSS feeds or get weather graphics on the device&#039;s front panel.  An example of the power of plugins is that there is the ability to play ANY internet radio stream (including ie Real Audio) with a plugin that transcodes everything through mplayer.  I can imagin an asterisk integration that would let users listen to voicemail through a squeezebox.

Both are good products, but I suggest you check out both before deciding.

&lt;i&gt;[WM: By all means, try both. You can always return the Sonos unit(s). But, once you try the Sonos devices (especially the remote), you&#039;ll never settle for a Squeezebox. Don&#039;t forget to factor in the cost of an amp for each room in which you wish to use a Squeezebox. And then there&#039;s the problem of finding sufficient real estate in each room to store all the components.]&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Sonos is a great product, but anyone looking for a home audio streaming solution should also look at the Squeezebox from <a href="http://www.slimdevices.com" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.slimdevices.com</a>.  I have two of them and am very happy and I&#8217;m unaware of any major functionality that the Sonos has that Squeezebox lacks.  The Squeezebox doesn&#8217;t have the fancy "ipod look" of the Sonos, but it&#8217;s less expensive and more hacker friendly.  Each player costs $249 (wired) or $299 (wireless).  You don&#8217;t need to buy anything else as long as you have a PC (any  OS) to run the free (open source perl) slimserver that takes care of library indexing, web server, media streaming etc.  Slim Devices doesn&#8217;t offer an amplified solution so you need to connect to a receiver or something.  They also don&#8217;t have a fancy ipod-like controller.  Your Squeezeboxes are controlled either via the included old-fashioned remote, or via the web interface.  Ward will probably like the fact that there is already a skin to access the web interface from your Nokia 770 (<a href="http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?SlimserverAndNokia770" rel="nofollow ugc">http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?SlimserverAndNokia770</a>).</p>
<p>There is also a free open source java soft player that will run on any PC and let you access the same server.  One of the big benefits of Slim&#8217;s architecture is it&#8217;s extensibility.  There is an active development community writing plugins to do things like read RSS feeds or get weather graphics on the device&#8217;s front panel.  An example of the power of plugins is that there is the ability to play ANY internet radio stream (including ie Real Audio) with a plugin that transcodes everything through mplayer.  I can imagin an asterisk integration that would let users listen to voicemail through a squeezebox.</p>
<p>Both are good products, but I suggest you check out both before deciding.</p>
<p><i>[WM: By all means, try both. You can always return the Sonos unit(s). But, once you try the Sonos devices (especially the remote), you&#8217;ll never settle for a Squeezebox. Don&#8217;t forget to factor in the cost of an amp for each room in which you wish to use a Squeezebox. And then there&#8217;s the problem of finding sufficient real estate in each room to store all the components.]</i></p>
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		By: Mark Voevodin		</title>
		<link>https://nerdvittles.com/the-whole-house-ipod/comment-page-1/#comment-1696</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Voevodin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This &#039;sounds&#039; great (no pun).  Do you know how this solution would compare to a system like pluto, which packages media, home automation and asterisk?  Or another way of putting it, can we interface Sonos with trixbox?

&lt;i&gt;[WM: You&#039;re reading my mind. No Linux software yet, but stay tuned and keep an eye on their &lt;a href=&quot;http://forums.sonos.com/&quot;&gt;forums&lt;/a&gt;. The company is very responsive to user requests so it shouldn&#039;t be too long. All of the Sonos software is self-updating ... just like TrixBox and freePBX.]&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This &#8216;sounds&#8217; great (no pun).  Do you know how this solution would compare to a system like pluto, which packages media, home automation and asterisk?  Or another way of putting it, can we interface Sonos with trixbox?</p>
<p><i>[WM: You&#8217;re reading my mind. No Linux software yet, but stay tuned and keep an eye on their <a href="http://forums.sonos.com/">forums</a>. The company is very responsive to user requests so it shouldn&#8217;t be too long. All of the Sonos software is self-updating &#8230; just like TrixBox and freePBX.]</i></p>
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